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Talk It Out with Jodi Leib
April 25, 2004
March for Women's Lives, Washington D.C.
Jodi: It's so amazing to be in your presence.
You're such an enlightening spirit. How do you stay so
enlightened?
Gloria: I listen...to other women.
Jodi: That's great! There's a lot of talk about how Jane Roe
regrets her decision and how she's an activist against abortion...how
does that make you feel? How is it working against Women's Rights?
What does that mean to us? Does it matter?
Gloria: It doesn't have an impact, because she deserved the right
to make the decision at the time, and she deserved the right to change
her mind. More than 40% of all women will have had or need an
abortion at some time in their lives. Each individual is
important.
Jodi: I'm going towards spirituality, because I think that the
nature of religion is something that applies to all people, not just
Republicans. Many people are religious, and I don't think
that the Pro-Choice movement really even focuses on that. I mean,
it does a little bit, but are you spiritual? Is there spirituality
in your life?
Gloria: Very much, but not religion.
Jodi: Right.
Gloria: But, that's personal. And actually, most religions
are Pro-Choice. The Catholic Church approved of abortion until the
1840s, and they changed their minds because of population issues, not
because of moral issues.
Jodi: Kind of, looking in touch with ourselves, what is the power
of making our own choices and living by our own standards? How
does that translate to being a human being?
Gloria: Could you be a little more specific?
Jodi: Choice is a gift that we've been given to have the freedom
to be human beings. Do you agree with that? Choice is such a
huge subject matter. What is the power of Choice? What does
it actually mean?
Gloria: It allows you to be your unique self. Inside each
person, there seems to be some voice that is both unique to that person,
and universal as a human voice. It allows that voice to be heard.
Jodi: Unity is One Voice!
Gloria: No, not unity is one voice, but Unity is a Chorus of
Individual Voices.
Jodi: I love that! Thank you so much for being a guest on
Talk It Out.
Gloria: Okay. Thank you.
Jodi: It's an honor to be in your presence, Gloria Steinem!
If any of the readers out there remember, until I met
Gloria Steinem, the tag line/slogan for Talk It Out was Unity Is One
Voice....Talk It Out! I was very proud of that slogan, until
Gloria corrected me. I agree with her. Unity is a Chorus of
Individual Voices....Talk It Out!!!!!!
Please visit Ms.
Magazine and the Feminist
Majority Foundation to see the passion that Ms. Steinem built for
Women's Rights just a generation ago. She is as inspiring now as
she ever was. An important voice in our chorus of life.
Back to www.jodileib.com
Jodi Leib's Talk It Out Interview with
Gloria Steinem was taped on April 25, 2004. Talk It Out (c) Jodi
Leib, 2004. Reprint by Permission at talkitout@jodileib.com.
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